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Fora vol Fortuynisten, Vrijheden en Realisten

Vijftien jaar gelden was het nieuw, flitsend en modern. Inmiddels beginnen ze tot de rafelranden van het internet te behoren: webfora. Digitale discussieplekken die meestal worden gekenmerkt door een bepaald thema of een bepaald type gebruiker. Inmiddels is die discussiefunctie in veel gevallen vervangen door nieuwe communicatievormen op internet, vooral door sociale media, by reactions with news and weblogs. But there are still active web forums, also extreme right, which are often populated by different groups PVV supporters. And as chaotic as these forums are often, she beautifully display where the core of the extreme right-wing populism is all about.

Despite the somewhat outdated concept of web forums is undeniably a lively bunch at the digital PVV supporters. They adhere to these forums – in brief – primarily engaged in particular freely express their own opinions. Particularly pretty and very noisy. But also without further also to each other or listen to someone else. And that leads to interesting scenes on. About much they usually sometimes (Wilders, Muslims, leftist politics). There is therefore not really be debated and forum messages especially with much approval and cheers greeted. But every now and then go Opinions differ and supplies that occasionally true digital battlefields on. For as known runs in the extreme right-wing advocates of freedom of expression, especially to their own free opinion and especially not for those of others. If it gets out of hand on a pro-PVV forum during such a digital battle that usually ends in the same predictable way. The forum administrator block or erase one or more users. Which are then angry because they do not respect their Freedom of Speech. And what do those then? Starting a new forum in which they then become quite loud and clearly express their own opinion. There until they are confronted with them unwelcome opinions. Moreover quarrel from continuing and that in turn blocks and lapses in. Which again comes a new forum. And so on and so on. We take three such forums which further study: The Pim Fortuyn Forum, the Forum for Freedom and the Forum for Realists / North Country.

The Pim Fortuyn Forum

The Pim Fortuyn Forum is the oldest of the three forums. Owner and manager of the Forum, Arnold van der Veen Meerstadt, Fortuyn was an early supporter and kicked it in 2004 to regional contact for the LPF. It was late Pim Fortuyn Forum 2001 Founded, Pim Fortuyn was just heavily in emerging, but did not yet own party, was at that time at Liveable Netherlands (1). Van der Veen Meerstadt was almost from the beginning in the forum and after some time was primarily responsible. Because he this forum the first years of existence barely moderated by extremist statements, came to be filled with the discriminatory and racist messages. That eventually earned him a justice issue. He was questioned by the police following a number of racist messages. Eventually he narrowly escaped persecution. The consequence was that he then moderation reins has attracted considerable. Too right-wing posters were addressed from that moment.

Besides these extremist messages the Pim Fortuyn Forum was regularly plagued by major arguments, with corresponding suspensions and expulsions. Those fights were with the stricter moderation policy determined no less. These two developments eventually led up to that part of the posters on the Pim Fortuyn Forum found that they were given too little space there for their own free opinion, because they were getting lectured by the moderation policy of the manager. This applied in particular to the extreme right part of the Forum, whose posters especially notable for racist messages and much shouting. They split in February 2007 off to start a new forum: The Forum for Freedom.

The Forum for Freedom

Paul Kramer calls under his pseudonym Paul Kersey on leftist activists shot dead
Paul Kramer calls under his pseudonym Paul Kersey on leftist activists shot dead

Exactly one year after the founding of the Party for Freedom takes this from Fortuyn Forum Group Wilders supporters left the initiative to establish the Forum for Freedom. This is done under the direction of Paul Kramer from Arnhem. Room was on the Fortuyn forum operates under the pseudonym "Paul Kersey '. Kramer much in 2005 op, when, after the coarse murder of a leftist activist from Nijmegen in the Fortuyn forum repeatedly called to shoot much more leftist activists. (2)

Apparently there has been at the time of the creation of the Forum for Freedom contact with the PVV party, because one of the founders reports: 'Wanted Fleur (Agema, note Kafka) we made it clear that we had started this on their own initiative and they had no involvement or responsibility in there. And this I also confirms.’

Paul Kramer is to this day the owner and manager of the Forum for Freedom, already had it in 2010 very nearly he had stopped it. After some fuss about impending bills to copyright violations and faltering software Kramer wanted to throw the towel. In the background there also played a big fight with. Kramer was in fact quite disappointed in the PVV tolerance construction around the Rutte. And there were many Wilders supporters on the forum do not agree. Therefore Kramer had several times the broadside. But after a few times of the forum have taken the internet and brought back to have it picked up eventually the forum again. Meanwhile, there was at the forum - it is predictable - by all this stuff properly broken the pleurisy and had received a number of participants a forum ban. And then started the Forum for Realists. But we shall come back to that.

Fred Renkema onder zijn pseudoniem Niehielist
Fred Renkema under his pseudonym Niehielist

A year after these events, in 2011, Anders Breivik killed his bombing and massacre on the Norwegian island of Utoya. The Forum for Freedom prove some Breivik fans walking around. Amsterdam Fred Renkema set example (under the pseudonym 'Niehielist') a message: "In that case, the attack is the only correct answer to a leftist totalitarian state where right-wing people are silenced gemaakt.'Als you no debate can carry more than with words but with bombs. Tribute to the attacker. By th way, ( for the AIVD and Kafka, who also read along) I have no plans for an attack. Since I have not the balllen.’ Thus the Forum was for Freedom short time the subject of much media attention. But ultimately did not matter much. The text is simply read up to this point on the forum.

North Country / Forum Realists

North Country Forum
screenshot North Country Forum

As in the previous section already written was driven by some of the Forum for Freedom and disappeared PVV supporters set up a new forum: The Forum for Realists. And it was really interesting. Because here's moderation policy was not motivated by moderation, but were just people with something "more moderate" right-wing opinion removed. Two key figures in that forum were Jan Peter Mante from Zeist (founder of the Forum, pseudonymous JPM) and Olaf Boss (1968) and Olaf Boss (pseudonym "King George") (3). Olaf Baas had at the Forum for Freedom let all know someone with very extreme statements. He wrote in 2010: "Muslims are sheep killers. Eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but for once? A Moslimpje cut the throat? I say: Do!’

But that was not all. The Forum for Realists, that after a brief power struggle with cancellations over and was again renamed 'North Country', developed into a very personal space extremist Wilders supporters, but also anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers. Remained Amazingly Olaf Baas, a big fan of Wilders, but also an Israel supporter initially active there, without at all anti-Semitism and all Holocaust ontekenningen to agitate. But ultimately,, after a number of digital moving the North Country Forum is now only accessible to a hard core of Jew-haters. King George / Olaf Baas, after initial enthusiastic participation, now no trace back.

Retail

Jan Peter Mante op een anti-Islam demonstratie in Den Haag, 2008
Jan Peter Mante on an anti-Islam demonstration in The Hague, 2008

After this brief overview we want to zoom in once from the board level to an individual user. No striking or crucial user. But rather one that actually is pretty much in the middle. A user from this middle group very nicely shows the content development of these forums. Because apart from all quarrels and divisions of course there are also all kinds of political statements posted on these forums. These are 'Mercator', pseudonym of Christian Wouters, a Belgian resident in Heerlen and PVV trailer. Wouters played a major role within these fora of significance. He is a soul mate of King George / Olaf Baas and like him was active in the Forum for Freedom as the Realists Forum. On these forums he talks broadly along with the folks in the street: hatred against Muslims, hatred left and occasionally he jumps, like many other forum members do, even quite out of the band. As is discussed in a discussion thread or the Freedom Party should not advocate a freer firearm possession. To make his intentions clear implicitly tells Wouters here on the one hand he's been since 1999 legally in possession of small arms and on the other hand that law certainly should not apply to Muslims in the Netherlands. He let himself out explicitly racist, For example, Saudi Arabia and Egypt called 'monkey countries'. Not very exceptional, such extremist statements are done on these forums. In that respect Wouters follows the average standard of these forums. When he goes to the Forum for Realists posts, he does again very charming with it. Like a good number of others, that the Forum for Freedom not enough could freely express their opinions, reveals himself in this place as Holocaust denier: There are according to Wouters no Jews were gassed in World War II. He should know, because he was once in Auschwitz and saw no gas chambers. Furthermore, he argues that Jews, just as Muslims, do not belong in Europe.

Order out of chaos

And last point, a somewhat broader zoomed view of what we have so far described. This brief overview of the history of apart resulting web forums and a small sketch of some users provides a bright image: chaos, quarrel and fragmentation. But that image does reality shortage. You would think that because we are dealing with a bunch of whiners, navelstaarders in ruziezoekers. That is of course also known as, but at the same time there is something more going on. These forums are a symbol of where the extreme right-wing populism in the core is about. Indeed, it is on these forums, but also serious right-wing populists like Wilders and the PVV, with power and conviction established that more freedom, participation and democracy must be created. Its own people is in fact being silenced by the political elite and betrayed. The key element in that diatribe is that the Freedom of Speech does not apply to their own group. When the PVV aangang mouth does open government and its subsidized paladins ready to criminal law or by force if necessary these opinions to fall into the ground. That sound we recognize here the above forums, but also from parties like the PVV. But that's where the comparison does not, because what happens if there are then vented dissenting opinion on these forums: We have already seen that there is then digitally reviled, whacked, blocked and disbarred. And that is exactly what happens when extreme right-wing populist parties get a say (Compare the FPÖ in Austria, Berlusconi in Italy or Fidesz in Hungary): it turns out that if you want freedom of expression to be restricted to the own group dumbing. Unwelcome opinions of others should be banned, exile, torn or burned. Because those opinions are not opinions of their own people and do so no more to be heard.

Noten

  1. - Fortuyn was in February 2002 disbarred by Liveable Netherlands, after an interview in which he advocated the abolition of the criminal prohibition of discrimination. He then started his own party, de Lijst Pim Fortuyn (LPF).
  2. – The PVV parliamentarian Monica Nunes, where we are 2012 attention devoted to was not only on the Stormfront forum, also active in this forum. However, they rose up the Forum for Freedom is not very popular, because she was active in the Nazi Stormfront.
  3. - Funny to mention is that Olaf Baas as 'King George' on all three treated forums has been a fairly influential many poster. But at this moment (maart 2013) the Pim Fortuyn Forum is temporarily disbarred make due quarrel, Forum for Freedom exiled make due quarrel and the North Country Forum is wiped out completely. But that issue is resolved. Olaf Baas is in fact become active again in three other "free menings' forums.

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